Romanii din UK au nevoie de ajutorul nostru

[vasiletina]

Dragi prieteni,

Consideram ca romanii din UK au dreptul sa munceasca, au dreptul de a demonstra ca sunt competitivi pe piata muncii din Marea Britanie.

In decursul urmatoarelor luni, la Londra se va discuta la nivel guvernamental si politic viitorul nostru. Ne vor da, sau nu ne vor da englezii dreptul la munca? Am decis sa nu ne mai punem aceasta intrebare retoric, ci sa o adresam celor care vor decide: guvernantilor britanici.

Credem ca este momentul sa cerem ce ni se cuvine cu mandrie, demnitate, impreuna. Ziarul Roman in UK impreuna cu website-ul www.romani.co.uk lanseaza acum petitia “Stop discriminarii! Cerem dreptul la munca!”

Trebuie sa fim auziti, iar solicitarile noastre sa primeasca un raspuns favorabil. Speram sa va alaturati acestei initiative. Petitia, in format online:



http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/ROUK?e



si scris, se va desfasura in Marea Britanie pana in data de 15 octombrie 2007, cand va fi inaintata guvernului britanic. Pentru a semna petitia in scris, va invitam la Redactia ziarului Roman in UK, 110 Britannia House, 11 Glenthorne Road, London, W6 0LH, sau la sediul Romani in UK Ltd, 482B Neasden Lane North, London, NW10 0DG. Pentru informatii suplimentare puteti suna la 020 8735 6524 sau 020 8450 8184.



Speram ca impreuna sa schimbam drepturile pe care le avem in UK. Doar daca si tu contribui alaturi de noi, ceva poate fi schimbat !

Cristina Irimie

Director

ziar@romani.co.uk







Dear friends and supporters of the Romanians in the UK,

We believe that the Romanians in the UK have the right to work, the right to prove that they can be competitive on the labour market.

During the next two months, the British Government will decide whether the restrictions for the Romanian workers will be lifted or not. Will the British grant us or will they not, the right to work? We decided to stop posing rhetoric questions and instead to ask the British Government.

We feel it is high time to request what we, as European Citizens deserve.

“Roman in UK“ newspaper together with www.romani.co.uk have now launched the petition: “ Stop Discrimination! We want the right to work!”

We must be heard, and our request should get an answer. We hope that you will join us in signing the petition.

The online petition can be found at



http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/ROUK?e



and will be open for signatures until the 15th of October 2007, when it will, together with the written petition, be sent to the British Government. In order to sign the written petition, we invite you at the “Roman in UK” offices, at 110 Britannia House, 11 Glenthorne Road, London, W6 0LH. For further information you can contact us on: 0044 208 7356 524



We hope that together, we will change the rights of the Romanians’ in the UK. Only if you join us something can be changed!



Cristina Irimie

Editor in Chief

ziar@romani.co.uk

[ovimat]

Tu nu vezi ca la acest capitol irlandezii fac ce fac si britanicii? Asa ca sa-i ajutam cu semnaturi pe cei de acolo poate se intimpla.

[funkyfresh]

Ma fratilor tre sa facem ceva si in Irlanda ca vrem cu totii sa muncim cinstit, pana cand discriminarea asta. Astia nu stiu ca discriminand nu fac decat sa incurajeze munca la negru. Ori construim Europa impreuna ori construim o Europa cu cetateni de categoria 1 si alta cu cetateni de a doua categorie . Ma fratilor nu suntem cu totii tigani si hoti. Tre sa-i convingem de asta.

[catalin]

N-ai cu cine sa vorbesti ! Si nici cu cine sa faci treaba asta nu prea ai.Vad ca esti nou pe forum, am incercat anul trecut cam pe vremea asta si nu am reusit mai nimic.Am avut petitie cu cateva sute de semnaturi trimise catre multe persoane atat din Irlanda cat si de la EU.Unii nici macar nu au catadicsit sa ne raspunda altii macar au avut bunavointa sa ne trimita cate o scrisoare in care sa ne spuna ca ei nu pot face nimic...
Daca nu exista suportul agresiv al celor de la Bucuresti noi de unii singuri nu facem nimic.Si cum politica la Bucuresti se face pe baza de " mie ce imi iese?" sau "sa nu suparam pe cineva" nu o sa se intmple niciodata nimic!

[ovimat]

Se vede ca in Irl exista solutia self employed pentru cei care vor sa fie in legalitate, chiar daca poate nu se aplica la toti. Un NGO nu va schimba legile peste noapte, poate face lobby si cam atit. Cei care ar putea sunt la Bucuresti si au semnat tratate prin care fiecare tara EU isi stabileste independent politica de acordare a dreptului la munca. Imigratia legala/ilegala e pe agenda UE, toata lumea e ingrijorata de efectele pe termen lung in special dar si pe termen scurt mai ales pentru Italia si Spania unde vin cei mai multi ilegali din Africa.
In concluzie te descurci cum poti, sau daca nu poti te duci in alta parte.
Parerea mea.

[santiago]

Din cate citesc prin presa din UK nu prea sunt sanse nici anul asta .
Degeaba vrea Foreign Office-ul..sa scoata restrictiile la presiunea oamenilor de afaceri care nu spun nu unui aflux de cerere de munca daca Home Office spune un nu categoric.
Nu mai departe de zilele trrcute The Telegraph mai ca ne acuza ca exportam criminali..
By Bojan Pancevksi, in Romania

Last Updated: 1:00am BST 23/09/2007



Halfway between Bucharest and the Black Sea coast, the impoverished rural town of Tandarei is experiencing a startling renaissance.
Luxury 4x4s dodge pigs and horse-drawn carriages on its still rundown streets, while lavish mansions are springing up next to shabby peasant huts.

The transformation comes just a year after Romania joined the European Union, transforming the fortunes of the town's 14,000 citizens.

But Tandarei's good fortune comes at the expense of Britain. Vast numbers of Romanians have moved to western Europe, including tens of thousands to the UK, and are now sending money home, a worrying percentage of which is earned from criminal activities in Britain and its neighbours.
Local police say the exodus has meant a reduction in their crime figures. Stan Bitlan, the chief of police, said: "Crime rates have recently dropped, especially for thefts and robberies. But it does not only mean that all the criminals have left, it also means that the economy is improving and people are not forced to steal."
Mr Bitlan said those who had moved to Britain got their money in three ways: "By stealing, by begging and by cashing in on benefits. They send it home, like other immigrants, to finance new houses, flashy cars and other perks."

He has been visited twice by colleagues from the Metropolitan Police and is devising a project with his British counterparts that would involve officers travelling here to assist police in tackling their criminal compatriots.

But despite the evident need for international co-operation in cross-border crime, the mayor of Tandarei, Mr Vasile Sava, rejects the notion that his town has become an exporter of crime to countries such as Britain.
"We are certainly not exporting criminals," he said. "Lots of skilled workers from all professions have left to work abroad, and they are sending money back home. If a few among them are criminals, it doesn't mean that we can brand all of them as such."

Mr Sava admits that many offenders derive from the numerous Roma minority, but claims integration measures put in place by his administration are about to overcome the problem.

An estimated 1.5 million of Romania's 22 million inhabitants are Roma, most of them living in secluded and underprivileged communities.
Most in the Roma-populated outskirts of Tandarei have relatives living in the UK. Shellsuits and jewellery and gold teeth are the order of the day. They gave a friendly welcome. Then some of them admit to stealing and living off benefits.

Stan Cartian, 43, lived in London for six years but was recently deported for working illegally. He said: "Here, we are only gipsies and not human beings. But in Britain everyone is kind to us, even the authorities, and work is well paid."

His son Aron, 19, is currently visiting from Manchester. He moved there to rent a house after finding London too expensive. He drives a Renault Laguna, and claims to finance himself by selling the Big Issue, the newspaper sold by homeless people.

He said: "It's easy to make money in Britain. Here, we Roma have not felt the arrival of the EU. Authorities may receive some funds and subsidies, but here in our neighbourhood there is no running water, no heating, nothing."
Another man in the group left in a car with French licence plates. He would not give his name, or have his picture taken. But he said: "Of course, when there are no newspapers to sell, we have no choice but to go for the fat purses. You need to steal sometimes if there are no jobs."

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[santiago]

care spune ce?..scuze dar cred ca am scapat ordonanta :)

chiar acum CPT la o conf PNL ..spune ca Romania trebuie sa se faca cunoscuta si altfel nu doar prin capsunarii ei..intrebarea este..ce face guvernul in acest sens?

[addy81t]

CHESTIA ASTA CU RESTRICTIILE PT ROMANI SI BULGARI E BATAIE DE JOC. PAI DACA CEILALTI AU DREPT DE MUNCA SI S-A UMPLUT DE EI NOI CE MAI MUNCIM FRATILOR???

[Dan Tudor]

Tu nu vezi ca la acest capitol irlandezii fac ce fac si britanicii?
Gooooood point ! Cu precizarea: "...si la acest capitol"....

[catalin]

Si mai mult decat atat...
Daca England si-a luat antrenor italian, ...hopa ce surpriza !! :o si Irlanda tot italian !! Ce mai ! Un popor plin de personalitate si independenta si foarte foarte originali. Sau poate e doar o coincidenta... :D

[santiago]

citeam zilele trecute un articol in Irish Independent la sfarsitul caruia concluzia era ca au nevoie de foreign managers in special italieni si pt GAA.

[ovimat]

Ei au nevoie de foreign managers peste tot, asta daca vor sa le mearga bine si in viitor.

[Julianne]

Salutare, la toti romanii din Irlanda...Locuiesc si muncesc in UK de 2 ani si ca si ceilalti romani ma revolt din cauza nedereptatilor care ni se fac refuzanduni-se dreptul la munca...fara cersirea de work permit, student card , self employed card si toate neamurile de carduri pe care Home office-ul le-a inventat...Daca aveti putin timp si energie sa votati ptr ridicarea acestor restrictii, poate maine vor dipare definitiv , si va fi randul Irlandei sa renunte si sa urmeze sfatul sorei mai mari , UK...Multumesc...

[Innrain]

Julianne,
Optimismul tau e de laudat.
Nu, Irlanda nu va ridica restrictiile de munca, tocmai acum cand s-au anuntat previziuni extrem de negre pt anul 2009.

"The number of people in work is expected to have fallen by 14,000 by the end of the year and by a massive 47,000 in 2009."

http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/mhidaugbeygb/rss2/
sau
http://www.independent.ie/business/irish/onethird-of-multinationals-expect-to-cut-jobs-next-year-1492124.html

Nu inseamna ca eu nu doresc ridicarea acestor restrictii, eu care tocmai astept aprobarea unui permis de lucru, dar in acelasi timp trebuie sa fim realisti. Daca ne-am pune noi in locul lor, si Romania ar trebuie sa discute ridicarea restrictiilor de munca in conditiile in care somajul creste ca laptele pe foc sunt sigur eu unul as fi impotriva.


Oricum eu va urez bafta in demersurile voastre

[Julianne]

Haideti sa vedem practic si optimist lucrurile cum s-a zis mai sus ca doar e bine stiut ca noi romanii suntem optimisti din fire...Eu lucrez in health care si pot sa va spun cu mina pe inima ca au nevoie de carers, nurses samd...in UK , nu stiu cum e in Irlanda...Polonezii care au fost aici cu milioanele, incep sa se retraga pe la casele lor...deci locuri de munca sunt in domeniul de care vb si pun pariu ca si in altele...Ideea e ca englezii nu muncesc , nu le place sa o faca , asteapta la ajutoare banesti de la stat si la umarul emigrantului...asta e realitatea chiar daca nu o recunosc...si fac o paranteza mai mult sau mai putin amuzanta, am lucrat multe week end-uri doar foreigners ca dupa seri de vineri si sambata, englezii au fost prea 'sick' , adica 'beti' sa vina si la munca...Stiu ca e inainte de alegeri si cum conservatorii au castigat teren in ultimul timp ridicarea restrictiilor ar dauna laburistilor...nu putem spera decat ca macar dupa alegeri se va intampla minunea...oricum alta minune a fost cand dupa ian 2007 romanii nu au invadat UK ca vecinii nostrii polonezii...si i-a lasat pe britzii cu gura cascata, dar nu atat de mult cat sa renunte la restrictii...
Rabdare si speranta tuturor