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Mihaela
30-01-2006, 11:11
Am citi ieri un articolas in Sunday Business Post si m-am gindit ca i-ar interesa pe multi. Iata articolul in original:

Government delays permits decision

29 January 2006
By Pat Leahy

The government will not make a decision until autumn on whether to admit workers from Bulgaria and Romania when the countries join the European Union next year.

Amid fears raised by trade unions and Labour leader Pat Rabbitte that workers from eastern Europe are displacing Irish workers, ministers will wait until late in the year to decide whether Romanians and Bulgarians will be allowed come to Ireland to work without permits.

A Labour spokesman said this weekend that it was the party’s view that, if it was shown that Irish workers were being displaced by foreigners, Bulgarians and Romanians should not be freely admitted, but a system of green cards for them should be brought in.

Bulgaria and Romania are due to become members of the EU on January 1, 2007. Under EU principles governing workers’ freedom of movement, their citizens would be entitled to work in Ireland.

However, many EU countries are expected to defer extending full rights for several years.

Every EU country except the Republic of Ireland, Britain and Sweden deferred the opening of their borders when ten central and eastern European countries became members in 2004.

The government will have the option of deferring the opening of the Irish Labour market to Romanian and Bulgarian citizens if it wishes.

It is estimated that more than 150,000 workers from central and eastern Europe have come to Ireland since mid-2004. However, Irish unemployment has not increased suggesting that practically all of the new immigrants have found work.

There are already some Romanians in Ireland, operating under a work permits regime, though the numbers are not large. In 2004-2005, fewer than 3,000 permits were issued to Romanians, according to government figures.

The Irish Ferries case last year fuelled concern among unions about threats to their members’ pay and conditions from the availability of foreign labour.

The case of the Gama workers raised the prospect of the foreign workers being exploited - prompting what the unions have dubbed ‘‘the race to the bottom’’..

Liviu.Onofrei
30-01-2006, 11:30
Este typic Irish,nici o surpriza !
Eu i-as sfatui sa isi viziteze istoria si sa vada cum s-a procedat cu bunicii lor in Anglia,Europa si USA !

Cat despre EU...eu tot nu inteleg de ce ne agitam sa intram in EU !? Si..de ce se agita Irlanda de Romania in 2007 cand nici cei de la Bruxelles nu stiu de data de aderare! Sau..poate stiu...??

romania
31-01-2006, 02:59
Depinde din ce patura sociala fac parte cei care-si prezinta opiniile despre imigranti, forta de munca din afara, cheap labour....

Eu zic ca asta suna mai mult ca un atentat la a atata spiritele aici....vezi acolo unde se spune ca guvernul irlandez are optiunea de a respinge dreptul de a lucra celor din Rom&Bul...

Personal cred ca la nivel inalt se vede ca un avantaj in a aduce forta de munca care, de ce sa nu recunoastem va ocupa oricum sectoare mai prost platite, unde nu mergeau irlandezii oricum....si unde n-o sa fie nevoie de limba engleza.

chris
31-01-2006, 21:33
Dupa ultimele stiri se pare ca nu vor da dreptul de munca automat chiar daca intram in 2007 in EU, conform legii orice tara membra poate sa decida, daca sa dea sau nu drumul imediat, dar nu mai tarziu de 3 ani de la aderare.

romania
01-02-2006, 23:53
Din ceea ce scrie aici, s-ar putea sa fie mai mult de 3 ani... >:(
http://europa.eu.int/scadplus/leg/en/cha/c10524.htm

Liviu.Onofrei
02-02-2006, 01:27
DAR...din ceea ce scrie aici...se pare ca va trebui sa mai adaugi cativa anisori :

Crestin-democratii olandezi nu vor sa voteze aderarea Romaniei. Motivul: coruptia, Adrian Nastase, Miron Mitrea, Gheorghe Copos

Scandalul „Matusa Tamara”, afacerea Fly Taxi si tranzactiile Copos-Loteria Romana sunt pe cale sa blocheze integrarea Romaniei in Uniunea Europeana (UE).
Parlamentarii olandezi urmau sa ia in dezbatere ieri ratificarea Tratatului de Aderare a Romaniei si Bulgariei la UE, insa cel mai important partid din coalitia de guvernare de la Haga, Apelul Crestin-Democrat (CDA), nu vrea sa voteze integrarea din cauza coruptiei din tara noastra.
Fara menajamente, parlamentarii crestin-democrati olandezi arata cu degetul la personaje controversate din politica romaneasca, acuzandu-le direct de coruptie. Adrian Nastase, Miron Mitrea si vicepremierul in functie Gheorghe Copos sunt exemplele pe care reprezentantii CDA le aduc pentru a argumenta ca „Romania este in continuare corupta”.


http://expres.ro/europa/?news_id=210516&PHPSESSID=73a8a448f1f03cb61defaaf29a6b502e

romania
02-02-2006, 22:56
Sa nu uitam totusi ca hotararea e luata de mult cred eu...
Ce daca irlandezii au spus NU prin referendum la acel tratat...s-a mai organizat unul...si s-ar mai fi organizat cateva pana cand iesea cum trebuie!

Sa nu mai credem noi ca suntem buni sau ca un elev sarguincios care-si face temele cum trebuie, au ei nevoie de noi mai mult decat noi de UE!