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Asa cum am mentionat in urma cu cateva zile, fac public mesajul si formularul pentru obtinerea de fonduri de la IBM.
Formularul o sa il atasez imediat ce o sa gasesc modalitatea de a il pune intr-un post >:( - Help !
Hi Catalin
I notice that you have recently registered 50+ hours of volunteering. I don't recall having received an application form for an On Demand Community Grant from you, you are now entitled to do that as you have registered over the required number of hours to apply for a grant. Should you wish to do so, please complete the attached form and return it to us.
Can you let me know what school or organisation you have been volunteering with?
See: On Demand Community Grants (http://w3-1.ibm.com/ibm/ondemandcommunity/support/communitygrants) regarding eligibility and award details.
Regards
Deirdre Kennedy
Corporate Community Relations Manager
Linkul este inoperabil pentru ca este din Intranet-IBM
Dupa ce i-am raspuns la mail, oferindu-i detalii despre activitatiile organizatiei : prezenta in festivaluri culturale,cursuri de engleza si ECDL precum si cateva cuvinte despre Scoala de Duminica, iata raspunsul ei:
Catalin
That is really interesting, the work you are doing is so important. I have copied Deirdre O'Gorman (HR Diversity) and Alessandra Policini (Communications) as I am sure they would be interested in this too.
Can I recommend to you if you haven't already done so, to look at the ODC resources that are available for you to use with not-for-profits, I'm sure some of the resources would be suitable for you to use with the Romanian Society, see: http://w3-1.ibm.com/ibm/ondemandcommunity/community. Also, if you use an ODC tool, you can qualify for a bigger grant for the organisation.
If you are willing to share this with a wider audience I think it would be a very interesting story for w3/Link.me?
Regards
Deirdre Kennedy
Corporate Community Relations Manager
IBM Technology Campus, Damastown, Mulhuddart, Dublin 15
Primul pas care trebuie facut este sa complectam cat mai corect formularul, apoi poate partea cea mai importanta este sa derulam proiectul cat mai bine si fidel cu ceea ce am declarat ca vom face cu banii/aparatura.Ca orice organizatie care ofera grant-uri are pretentia sa primeasca feedback si sa se asigure ca suportul oferit a fost folosit in folosul comunitatii si non-profit.Dealtfel, vor conform mailului de mai sus sa realizam o prezentare a proiectului si a resusitei acestuia intr-o pagina web dedicata - IBM On Demand Community.
Am sa revin cu mai multe detalii si clarificari
Este cineva dispus sa lucreze impreuna cu mine la aceasta parte din proiect?
Multumesc.
Catalin
Da mai multe detalii despre proiectul pe care ti l-ai propus sa-l faci cu aceste fonduri.
Pai aici este problema Ovidiu!!!
Ca daca as fi stiut cu siguranta si daca ar fi depins de mine in totalitate desfasurarea unui astfel de proiect , il faceam demult...
O sa incerc sa aflu mai multe despre ce fonduri este vorba si ce anume putem realiza cu ele
[br]Postet at: December 27, 2007, 12:29:38 PM________________________________________________ _To qualify, you must be one of the following:
A regular full-time or part-time IBM employee. Employees approved for Leave of Absence or Disability programs and who are eligible for IBM benefits also qualify.
An IBM retiree.
A team of three or more eligible IBM employees and/or retirees.
In addition, you (or each member of your team) must have worked with an eligible organization for at least five months and for a minimum average of eight hours monthly. You must also have logged your volunteer hours on the On Demand Community site.
Grants to schools in support of IBM MentorPlace have different requirements: volunteers must commit to the program for the full school year, and donations will be made after six months of successful participation.
A requester may receive only one Community Grant per calendar year. This includes requesters who are part of team awards.
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Organizations
To qualify, an organization must be a not-for-profit community service agency that offers assistance in areas such as education, the environment, arts/cultural activities, health and human services, etc. It must also be located in the community where the volunteer activity takes place.
Also eligible are schools with early learning programs (preschools), as well as accredited, not-for-profit, public or private primary or secondary schools, colleges and universities.
The organization must not advocate, support, or practice activities inconsistent with IBM's non-discrimination policies, whether based on race, color, religion, gender, gender identity or expression, sexual orientation, national origin, disability, age or status as a protected veteran. Documentation demonstrating that the not-for-profit organization complies with the above statement may be required by the local CCR manager.
Ineligible organizations include those engaged in political activity and lobbying, profit-making agencies, religious programs, employee service organizations (e.g. IBM Clubs), agencies supported by tax revenues, and ones whose purpose is athletics or recreation. IBM reserves the right to determine which organizations are eligible for grants.
An organization may receive only one IBM Community Grant per calendar year.
Organizations that have been assisted by Community Grants include:
K-12 schools
Preschools/childcare centers
Adult and youth literacy programs
Job training programs
Community and family service agencies
Museums and other cultural organizations
Libraries
Children's Hospitals
Substance abuse programs
Organizations aiding the elderly
[br]Postet at: December 27, 2007, 12:33:43 PM________________________________________________ _Projects
Grant applications must be for a specific project or activity in the requester's local community. Educational projects such as the following would be considered eligible:
Reading/language skills
Computer literacy
Mathematics/science
Transition-to-work programs (career development)
Student assessment programs
Curriculum development programs
The Community Grants program emphasizes participation in and projects supporting IBM's key strategic efforts, including On Demand Community, Reinventing Education, Teaming for Technology and KidSmart Early Learning. However, the use of an On Demand Community solution is not mandatory. For information on IBM's strategic initiatives see the IBM Gives Web site.
Ineligible projects and expenses include:
Capital improvements (land purchase, building construction, major building modifications, etc.)
Operating expenses (salaries, office supplies, utility bills, etc.)
Athletic or recreational activities (camping, sports, etc.)
Projects, such as trips or scholarships, that benefit individuals
Third-party donations
Internet hosting
Recurring events or services
Auctions, raffles, or fundraising initiatives (e.g. walk-a-thons)
Projects that have been supported by IBM Community Grants include:
Mentoring a student during the school year
Implementing a technology planning solution for a community organization
Ongoing classroom/teacher support of the use of technology in a preschool
Demonstrating and installing support of Web Adaptation Technology solutions for a senior citizens' center
Creating and distributing educational materials to combat drug abuse
Developing a science museum after-school program
Preparing and serving meals in a homeless shelter
Developing environmental activities and educational materials for schoolchildren
Technology support for a volunteer fire service organization
[br]Postet at: December 27, 2007, 12:34:30 PM________________________________________________ _Awards
Depending on the needs of the organization, you may apply for a grant of either cash or IBM equipment. There are higher equipment grant award limits for requests that involve an On Demand Community solution.
Cash
Equipment
Team awards
MentorPlace grants
Cash
Maximum cash grants are $1,000(USD). Expense justification such as an estimate or receipt for the item is required. The amount of the requested item will be granted up to a maximum of $1,000(USD).
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Equipment
You may apply for a grant of one piece of equipment (PC, ThinkPad, printer, etc.) up to a value of $2,200(USD). All equipment prices are at Market Value and include shipping.
If your request involves an On Demand Community solution, you may apply for a grant of equipment up to a value of $3,500(USD). This grant can be for one or two pieces of equipment up to a maximum value of $3,500(USD)
Volunteers in the United States may select from the list of equipment currently available through the program. Volunteers elsewhere should contact their local IBM corporate citizenship manager to find out what equipment is available in their areas. (Equipment lists are subject to change without notice.)
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Team awards
To qualify for a team award, a group of at least three IBM employees and/or retirees must volunteer with an eligible organization for at least five months and for a minimum average of eight hours monthly. Each team member is required to meet this minimum volunteer commitment.
Team awards provide IBM technology, including systems and printers, up to a value of $5,000(USD). Any number of pieces of equipment can be ordered up to that maximum value.
If a team's request involves an On Demand Community solution, the team may apply for a grant of technology up to a value of $7,500(USD). Team awards do not include cash grants. Any number of items can be ordered up to that maximum value. Members of teams can only receive one grant per calendar year.
Examples of qualifying team projects are:
Support for a citywide adult literacy project
A long-term relationship with a local preschool utilizing KidSmart tools to support teachers, parents and children
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MentorPlace grants
IBM MentorPlace is a key component of IBM's overall commitment to education and young people. To encourage program participation, IBM MentorPlace has its own set of Community Grants eligibility rules which differ from rules governing grants for other volunteer activities.
A group of participating employees, working in partnership with an individual teacher, can donate a desktop PC to that teacher's classroom or school for use in the program.
The volunteer team must be working with the teacher's entire classroom.
Volunteers and the teacher must commit to the program for a full school year.
Equipment donations are made after six months of successful participation (as determined by local IBM managers, based upon quality and compliance with time and correspondence commitments, etc.).
Each teacher is eligible to receive one PC per school year.
Schools with more than one participating teacher may receive a maximum of seven PCs per year
AICI NU APARE SAU CEL PUTIN NU AM GASIT INCA, EXISTA UN GRANT DE PANA LA 10,000 $ LA CARE PUTEM TRIMITE APLICATIA...
In primul rind trebuie stiut pentru ce ai nevoie de grant, apoi se face restul.
Vezi daca poti intilni face-to-face persoana care se ocupa de granturi fiindca printr-o conversatie poti cere sugestii dupa ce ii spui ce face organizatia si cam ce ar mai vrea sa faca.
In Ianuarie am sa merg sa ma intalnesc cu ei sa vad ce zic.Eu am sa le spun ce vrem sa facem si ei sa vina cu solutii.
roadrunner
27-12-2007, 12:18
Ok si ce vreti sa faceti ? eu tot astept o propozitie doua ...
Roadrunner
Pai ce am putea face cu aparatura IBM???
Cursuri de calculatoare / Internet, engleza, se poate folosi de exemplu un proiector si in scoala de Duminica sau ce o mai fi pana la urma...
Nu stiu, astept si propunerile altora!
Ganditi-va ca se pot obtine: Calculatoare, proiector, imprimanta, chiar un mic server ( daca este util ), software daca este necesar.
O sa caut pe site cam ce au facut altii...poate ne putem inspira
[br]Postet at: December 27, 2007, 01:39:56 PM________________________________________________ _December 2007 – Mike Mendez – California
Mike Mendez developed an IT system to help California officials cope with thousands of calls for assistance during the recent wildfires.
In late October, a series of wildfires burned an estimated 515,000 acres in an area of California stretching from north of Los Angeles to south of San Diego. With 640,000 evacuations, 2,000 homes destroyed, seven people killed and more than 120 injured, the event ranks as one of the most devastating disasters in United States history.
Mike Mendez, an On Demand Community volunteer, used his IBM skills to help local agencies cope with an unprecedented call volume from local residents seeking assistance.
“I’m glad I work for a company that will support my volunteerism and interests through programs such as On Demand Community, said Mendez. “Especially in times of crisis, it means so much to be supported and know that my efforts are appreciated by IBM.”
Listen to a podcast (IBM employees only) featuring Wirt Cook, William Ray and Robin Willner (vice president, IBM Global Initiatives) discussing IBM’s response to the California wildfire disaster.
As soon as it became obvious the fires were going to threaten huge areas of his state, Wirt Cook, IBM’s senior state executive for California, brought together the IBM Crisis Management Team for Southern California as well as IBM’s senior location executives — including William Ray of San Diego.
The team agreed the United Way 2–1–1 call–in referral center presented an opportunity for IBM and its volunteers to assist with technology–related solutions. 2–1–1 is the organization’s new national dialing code for free, 24–hour community, health and disaster information. Ray suggested that the team reach out to Mike Mendez.
Hours, not weeks
“My job has always been to support customers in times of IT crisis,” said Mendez. “I started out as a customer engineer with mainframes 20 years ago. I felt very prepared to confront challenges on the network side in a natural disaster environment. I did what I always do to move forward: assess the situation, the talent and resources, then build a plan to meet our goal.”
California’s historic wildfires stressed the capabilities of local community disaster recovery services.
The assessment presented the challenge: during the crisis, volume to San Diego’s 2–1–1 center increased from 650 to more than 35,000 daily calls.
“We had a brand–new management team. The facility was leased and inadequate,” said Bill Norris, IT systems manager with 2–1–1 San Diego. “The air conditioning failed. We exceeded the available building power. We ran out of space and took over an empty church next door. I had nothing. I was so oversubscribed. Then Mike came in.”
In three days of nearly nonstop work, with the first night spent in his own recreational vehicle, Mendez assessed San Diego’s 2–1–1 info line needs and helped develop critical capacity expansion.
During the crisis, calls increased from 650 to more than 35,000 daily at the San Diego 2–1–1 center.
“My objective was to build an infrastructure to double the call center and automate the paper process. I sat down with the director and discussed the options and the risk,” said Mendez. “The key factor that gave me the heart to pull this off within 24 hours was that they recognized this was a crisis and were willing to accept mistakes. Without that confirmation, I would not have moved forward. Generally this type of upgrade takes weeks of planning, coordination and support.”
Crises such as Southern California wildfires, Hurricane Katrina, the tsunami in Southern Asia as well as recent flooding in Bangladesh have given new urgency to establishing centralized recovery services. IBM is working with the United Way of America, local United Way affiliates and others to help with recovery processes in the United States, as well as continuing to work with global organizations.
“Never, never will I forget the lessons learned,” said Mendez. “My work was only made possible by IBM’s support and the backbreaking work of all the volunteers who were willing to do any menial task to reach a goal. We had executive directors setting up desktops and duct–taping extension cords to the floor. We had the San Diego District Attorney on phones in the call center all night.
“I feel truly blessed that San Diego has this kind of people and I am proud to call it my home.”
This story is based on employee submissions. Tell us your success story so we can share it with other volunteers.
December 2007 – Stan Zimmer – Massachusetts
Retiree Stan Zimmer, who grew up in China, has returned to assist with literacy efforts using Reading Companion.
Stan Zimmer was born in China to parents who were educators in one of the most remote regions of the vast country, instilling in him empathy for China and an affinity for the value of education.
Reading Companion: By the numbers
Reading Companion utilizes innovative IBM speech– recognition technology to help adults and children attain and increase literacy skills.
Used by more than 400 organizations worldwide.
Nearly 14,000 students from nearly 350 organizations have read e–books using Reading Companion.
Some of the most popular books focus on employment and vocabulary.
Installed in Argentina, Austria, Brazil, Canada, Chile, China, Colombia, Ireland, Italy, Korea, Mexico, New Zealand, Norway, Peru, Poland, Slovakia, South Africa, Spain, United Kingdom, United States and Venezuela.
Today, the IBM retiree lives in Massachusetts and runs the Zimmer Foundation, which he established and dedicated to the memory of his parents. Its mission is to promote English and medical training in Tongren, Guizhou, where his parents once volunteered. The effort has proven to be a natural partnership for IBM’s first Reading Companion installation in China.
“There are more than 194 million English students in China, more than in any other country,” said Zimmer. “We can count our kudos when we get hundreds of children in China using the program. I think it is a matter of time before there are thousands using Reading Companion in China.”
Scholarships and technology
Zimmer began his volunteer work in China in 1992 and worked with a not-for-profit organization for several years to provide educational, medical and information technology outreach services. However, he longed to assist the people of Tongren, Guizhou, where his parents first volunteered and where there were no other non–governmental organizations (NGOs) in operation.
The Guizhou region is located in the southwestern portion of China.
Through his foundation, Zimmer provides scholarships to needy English students enrolled at Tongren University, along with high school scholarships. Recipients have demonstrated high academic achievement, and typically come from families whose income is at, or below, the poverty level ($120 per year).
The foundation, based in Belchertown, Massachusetts, was awarded a grant of Reading Companion in summer 2007, and recently began deploying the program at Tongren University. Zimmer traveled to China in October to assist in the launch activities.
There are 16 teachers at the university using Reading Companion in their classes, which average 35–50 students. All have received their certification in Teaching English as a Foreign Language (TEFL), but have limited access to native English speakers who can teach and verify correct pronunciation and grammar. This is why Reading Companion has been so well received: its unique feedback mechanism and ability to provide aural reinforcement of pronunciation and grammar is seen as a tremendous tool for progress.
“Reading Companion really makes a difference,” said Zimmer. “It was exciting to see a foreign teacher being introduced to the program for the first time and before you know it, she was able to use the software to select books for her classroom and begin registering students immediately.”
Stan Zimmer accepts a small token from local students in the Tongren region.
Although the program has just begun, word of its success has spread quickly. Before leaving China, Zimmer received a call from the president of a large Chinese communications company, who is working with a school in a large urban area “with more resources and vision than I have ever seen in all of China,” according to Zimmer. He was thrilled to find out the president was interested in using Reading Companion for the school.
For Zimmer, Reading Companion is the next step in a journey that is bringing him back to where his parents volunteered in his childhood. It’s also an affirmation of IBM’s long legacy of community service: “IBM’s leadership in the community, evident during my career as well as today with the creation of programs like On Demand Community and Reading Companion, is exactly what Thomas Watson had in mind when he created the company.”
roadrunner
27-12-2007, 12:44
Catalin,
Multumesc de raspuns, tokmai am castigat o sticla de wiskey la un pariu, (facem "share", ca mi-ai ridicat-o la fileu)
deci nu stii ce vrei sa faci...
Mai bine nu porneati topicul asta ca nu va avantajeaza.
Roadrunner
De asta poate ati auzit deja !
Volunteer of the month: Open source connects Irish elderly
May 2006 - Jonathan Dunne & Alex Markelov - Ireland
Blanchardstown, Ireland is a fast-growing suburb of Dublin and home to more than 70,000. In recent years, many of this area's elderly have become isolated due to crime and an increasing pace of life. Enter "Good Morning Blanchardstown" (GMB).
This not-for-profit organization offers free and confidential home telephone alert calls. Anyone who fails to respond or is in need of assistance is visited or called by local social services.
Today, GMB - an award-winning program, visited by the President of Ireland when it officially launched last year - is expanding its services to include computer training for the elderly. The successful model was built on open source technology and the efforts of two local On Demand Community volunteers: Jonathan Dunne and Alex Markelov.
Building on success
A Good Morning Blanchardstown case study
"Patricia lived in South Africa for 40 years. Returning home to Ireland, she missed her friends and hadn't made any here. Phone calls were far too expensive, so she was left isolated. On joining GMB, she quickly became comfortable with our daily call. I recommended a basic computer course, which she agreed to do. Patricia now e-mails her friends in South Africa at a manageable cost and has improved her confidence to the extent that she has developed friendships locally."
- Mary, GMB Call Center Operator
GMB utilized open source software developed for a similar project in Glasgow, Scotland. Although the software was free, estimates for installing and customizing the package reached more than $5,000 - much more than GMB could afford. Enter On Demand Community.
"We required the project not only act as a check on the clients' well-being, but to gather data that could be used by human services and local authorities," said Danny Bell, project development officer, Fingal County Council. "Thankfully, we found the ideal solution through IBM Ireland and On Demand Community."
Markelov and Dunne (who remembers playing soccer as a nine-year-old in Blanchardstown) are IBM Software Group employees with extensive experience in open source applications running on UNIX. Together, they volunteered to tweak the GMB software package for local use.
"We heard about the opportunity through the local On Demand Community Web site, and it just took off from there," said Dunne. "It's important to note that although the software is free, customizing open source takes time."
Markelov received a Community Grant by tracking his hours and recently received an IBM server to apply to the project. The server will allow GMB to upgrade its current IT system and provide backup for the new equipment - all without incurring annual licensing fees, due to the nature of open source.
"The lack of annual fees allows open source to be democratic in the development community," said Markelov. "We were free to build on the capabilities of the Glasgow project and know there would be no additional charges to GMB. It's a lifesaver for nonprofits. And, we're still working on the project."
A real and enduring impact
Although the IBM Dublin site is "only about five minutes away" from Blanchardstown, the huge technology campus is far removed from the everyday lives of the local elderly. Still, Dunne and Markelov are thrilled and surprised at the impact their work is having.
A recent progress report by the Community Department of Fingal County Council stated that while the life span of the operation has been relatively short, the Executive Committee believes GMB is already proving to be a valuable asset. To date, the organization has dealt with three serious emergencies that have, they believe, saved three lives.
"I'd like to grow old myself," said Markelov. "It's great to think there are organizations out there that will be there to help and that IBM is allowing us to have such a great impact here in Ireland."
Dunne has a constant reminder of the success the two volunteers have had: "It seems like everyone I know saw that picture of me with the President. I still have it hanging on my refrigerator. That was a 'wow' moment."
roadrunner
27-12-2007, 12:54
Alo sefu, i-ai pierdut pe toti acum, eu si altii credeam ca vorbim de comunitatea romaneasca ...
tu chiar te astepti sa cititm tot ce pui cu copy si paste? si sa decidem daca avea legatura cu noi romanii?
Roadrunner
Catalin,
Multumesc de raspuns, tokmai am castigat o sticla de wiskey la un pariu, (facem "share", ca mi-ai ridicat-o la fileu)
deci nu stii ce vrei sa faci...
Mai bine nu porneati topicul asta ca nu va avantajeaza.
Roadrunner
Eu unul stiu ce vreau sa fac, dar inca nu am suportul nimanui, sau cel putin al nimanui, tu spui ca romanul nu este interesat de further education, la fel si Ovidiu este pesimist in privinta prezentei romanilor la cursuri.Pana acum ideiile mele au fost considerate de catre unii "vorbe mari" si astfel imi cam dispare optimismul si cheful de voluntariat....
Ce am putea face cu un astfel de grant??? sa eradicam foametea in Darffur?? sa ne cream o imagine mai buna in Irlanda??Nu este obligatoriu ca eu sa am proiectul.Eu pot sa facilitez un astfel de grant, poate are altcineva o idee mai buna decat a mea.
Merci de invitatie la Wiskey, nu beu ca iau pastile, sunt racit, poate alta data. Poate asteptam de la tine o sugestie in privinta utilizarii unui astfel de proiect!
[br]Postet at: December 27, 2007, 01:57:22 PM________________________________________________ _Nu astept sa citeasca decat cei pe care ii intereseaza.Daca era un site public dadeam linkul si nu copy/paste si fiecare ar fi citit ce il interesa.Sunt cateva exemple a ce au realizat altii.
Este in primul rand vorba de IT, cei care sunt in domeniu poate au ceva mai multa inspiratie si pot veni cu niste proiecte.
CUM SE POATE FOLOSI APARATURA SI TEHNOLOGIE IN FOLOSUL COMUNITATII? Este destul de simpla intrebarea!
roadrunner
27-12-2007, 13:39
Catalin
De obicei cand aplici la un grant, stii ce vrei sa faci, nu aplici si te gandesti dup'aia, de aici si nedumerirea mea (n-ai citit-o pe aia cu carul inaintea boilor)
Daca tu crezi ca romanii din irlanda au nevoie de un server, e ok, personal nu sunt convins ca asta le lipsea (la fel si cu sistemul de teleconferinta)
deci propunerea e, am un server ce facem cu el? habar n-am, mai ales ca CRI (cu Cairde) mai are unul, puneti-l de back-up la primul, dar lumea o sa intrebe ce faceti cu primul
si de aici iar necazuri.
Roadrunner
Catalin, eu nu sunt pesimist, stiu din proprie experienta ce s-a intimplat si de aceea vrea ca CRI sa progreseze. Stii bine ca am si un pic de experienta cu proiecte finantate dar la care stiam de la inceput ce vreau sa fac. Ei asta nu stim acum: ce sa facem. de asta tre vazut ce vor oamenii si apoi daca e realizabil.
uite o idee care nu costa mai nimic si are impact: mentorship. adica o persoana care vrea o cariera sau studii in IT este pusa in contact cu un voluntar care lucreaza in IT si care ii poate da informatii si sfaturi despre acel sector, poate chiar il ajuta cu work experience. trebuie gasit doar voluntarul si cel interesat.
parerea mea
Aurash,
Poate ma repet, de aceea am facut public intentia de a aplica pentru grant.Ca sa primim ajutorul celorlalti.Ca pot si singur sa complectez un formular, sa il umplu de "vorbe mari" si sa iau aparatura.Problema apare in momentul in care o sa ma fac de ras ca nu o sa pot derula proiectul ca voi fi singur sau cel mult alti 2-3 nebuni ca mine.
Deci, nu s-a aplicat inca, astept sugestii ca dupa aceea sa se poata aplica.
Cu riscul de a parea ala cu prea multe idei ;) mai vin cu una: ( asa poate va deschid interesul si va rascolesc imaginatia)
Ce ar fi daca cu ajutorul unui web-server cu un soft care sa faciliteze web-conference sa incepem cursuri de romana ,istorie si geografie on-line pentru copii.Cei interesati, la o data si ora anume ( confirmata in prealabil de catre moderatori) intra pe un site si participa la cursuri interactive - intrebari-raspunsuri ; alege fotografia corecta...Se pot face o multime de lucruri cu un astfel de sistem.Nu stiu care este requierment-ul pentru asa ceva, las specialistii sa se pronunte.
Poate este prea mult, vor spune unii, prea complicat vor spune altii.Nu o sa fie parinti interesati de asa ceva vor spune altii. Atunci??Ce se poate face?
Pe tema cu ce intreaba lumea, ma cam lasa rece.Atata timp cat aceea lume nu si-a adus contribuitia in nici un fel, nu vad dece ar trebui sa dam noi socoteala si astfel sa apara necazuri.Daca ar fi din banii de cotizatii...Daca ei nici macar nu vin cu o parere, nu isi exprima nici o dorinta/doleanta dece ar trebui noi sa le dam socoteala?
roadrunner
27-12-2007, 14:10
Facand scoala pe internet ai limita accesul, uita-te cati useri au raspuns la poll-ul cu judetele, mai ales la judetele Bistrita si Neamt (Suceava) multi ca numar da' fara internet.
(remarca mea e pur statistica sa nu se creada ca stigmatizam pe cineva pentru ca nu are access la internet)
Roadrunner
Buna ideea cu mentor!
Mai sunt si altele care cu siguranta zac pe undeva prin mintea fiecaruia!
Daca romanii nu vor nimic, ce facem? Nu mai incercam nimic? Tare imi este ca putem noi astepta mult si bine pana or sa vina romanii cu problemele care ii framanta, ca tot degeaba.Daca nici macar 10% din cei din Dublin nu stiu despre CRI cum sa asteptam sa ne comunice ce vor ei sau ceilalti? Poate ar trebui sa pornim mai de jos in astfel de proiecte, sa ne apucam sa ne facem cunoscuti in prima faza si dupa aceea sa adunam oarece feedback si sa vedem ce iese
roadrunner
27-12-2007, 14:19
Eu am mai zis, fotbal si spritz...nu servere si TCP/IP,
nu IBM ci Heineken...
Roadrunner
Pai hai sa ii invatam ce bine este sa ai acces la internet !!! Daca nu pentru ei, macar pentru copii lor ca nu vor mai fi din Neamt sau Bistrita ci sunt copii nascuti la Dublin. Daca nimeni nu le spune cat de important este un calculator/internet pentru ei si mai ales pentru copii lor...nu vor sti niciodata.
Si deci... daca e limitat, inseamna ca renuntam la idee.Decat sa beneficieze 5-10 copii de un astfel de program, mai bine sa nu beneficieze nimeni![br]Postet at: December 27, 2007, 03:23:01 PM________________________________________________ _Chestia aia cu intalnirile la o bere si un saleu/jeleu s-a notat si se vor face.
Dar trebuie sa ne gandim si un pic mai departe de astea.
roadrunner
27-12-2007, 14:25
Alo trezirea, cum dai de ei daca nu sunt pe internet? "Ursus, Silva" strigatul de lupta al romanului...
ia striga tu "web server" sa vedem cati vin....
Roarunner
Pai ti-am dat dreptate....prietenii stiu dece !!
roadrunner
27-12-2007, 14:29
Pai nu trebe sa-mi dai drepate ca nu-mi tine nici de foame nici de cald, de acolo trebuie inceput si cu pasi mici se calrifica si celalalte.
Roadrunner
Catalin,doar o sugestie.... :)
Se pare ca ideea cu Scoala de Duminica e agreata de tot mai multa lume.Vine din urma ideea lui Aurash cu ...Heineken & Co....
De ce nu le combini si uite...ai un proiect :)
Scoala de Duminica poate fi atat pentru copii cat si pentru adulti ( inclusiv calculatoare daca e cineva interesat - de ce sa faci curs de calculatoare/engleza etc in alta zi/loc si sa ai sala goala ?)
Pun pariu ca sunt parinti care dupa ani de zile de Ire nu stiu sa lege 13 vorbe in engleza dar din mandrie/prostie nu ar veni singuri la vre-un curs in schimb pentru copii e posibil sa-i aduci acolo si sa-i faci interesati de ceea ce faceti.
Pentru cei neinteresati ( parinti/copi ) ... planul B : Heineken,zmee,Lego si alte alea
Numai bine,
Liviud.
P.S. Ceea ce sugereaza Ovimat
Fondurile vin mai ales pentru aceste proiecte comune sau care implica si irlandezi, in plus asta chiar este promovare a romanilor in alt topic nu e rau : in aceeasi Scoala de Duminica se pot oferi si cursuri de limba romana ( pentru irlandezi si nu numai ) .
Scoala de Duminica exista la Biserica Ortodoxa din Lesson street. A luat cineva legatura cu ei sa invate din experienta lor?
1. Locatia. Unde va fi? In ce conditii se are accces la spatiu.
2. Continutul si durata lectiilor.
3. Citi parinti/copii si-au exprimat dorinta de a participa.
4. Exista profesori/persoane capabile sa predea intr-un mod atractiv si interactiv pentru copii?
5. Grupa de virsta a copiilor.
Asta ar fi minimul de stiut, dupa aceea se poate face bugetul.
Alte pareri?
O sa ne interesam...
La fel cum o sa incerc sa iau legatura cu cei din comunitatea Letona (latviana) care deruleaza un astfel de program de catva timp.
Din momentul in care am aflat de ei, parca m-am inversunat si mai tare pe ideea asta.O fata din Latvia,care lucreaza in cleaning aici in IBM mi-a povestit cum merge in fiecare Sambata dimineata (am uitat locatia) cu fica ei de 8 ani la cursuri de limba si istorie/geografie cate 3 ore in fiecare sambata.Doua ore sunt dedicate orelor de curs iar cea de a 3 este pentru traditii - cantece si dansuri.Frumos , nu? Noi de ce naiba nu putem?[br]Postet at: December 27, 2007, 04:16:19 PM________________________________________________ _Am gasit un site care ar putea fi relevant pentru unii dintre noi, cei cu copii, si de ce nu chiar un suport pentru o scoala fie ea si de Duminica.
http://www.kidsmartearlylearning.org/EN/index.html
Mai interesant este ca din 50 de vizitatori pe site pentru ziua de astazi, numai vreo 7-8 au si contribuit cu un mesaj, restul se multumesc sa citeasca si atat.
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Si uite asa se pierde in ceata discutia despre "Grant pentru Comunitatea Romaneasca - IBM"...
Intra omul pe forum la subiectul care il intereseaza...citeste...citeste...fuge sa verifice statisticile forumului...pana la urma ajunge la topicul cu masini sau " Buna ziua doamnelor"...si se face o varza fara cap si fara coada de aceleasi discutii sunt incepute iar la fiecare 2-3 luni de ne prinde iar 1 Decembrie nepregatiti ( ca iarna in tara cand se cauta vinovatul pentru nedeszapezire ( sic) ).
:)
catalin,
nu prea inteleg cam la ce te astepti tu. esti pe forumul asta destul de mult timp. sunt foarte multi care vin aici doar pentru o informatie, 5-10 min de delectare sau pur si simplu din plictiseala.
pe cei care au de zis ceva si au si curaj... ii stim.
hai sa-o tinem la subiect... ca iar deraiam
;)
Deci a ramas stabilit,
Urmatorea discutie : organizarea zilei de 1 Decembrie 2008.
:)
Facem un topic nou sau se va continua aici?
Intreb asa...ca simplu cetatean :)
Organizarea zilei de 1 dec 2008 nu se discuta pina in Oct 2008 ca sa nu se strice traditia ;D ;D
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